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Ramdohrite

A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered

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Ramdohrite, etc.

Ánimas Mine, Chocaya-Animas mining district, Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Ramdohrite

Mina Casualidad, Baños de Alhamilla, Pechina, Almería, Andalusia, Spain

Ramdohrite

Chocaya-Animas mining district, Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Ramdohrite, etc.

Ánimas Mine, Chocaya-Animas mining district, Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Ramdohrite

Mina Casualidad, Baños de Alhamilla, Pechina, Almería, Andalusia, Spain

Ramdohrite

Chocaya-Animas mining district, Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Ramdohrite, etc.

Ánimas Mine, Chocaya-Animas mining district, Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Ramdohrite

Mina Casualidad, Baños de Alhamilla, Pechina, Almería, Andalusia, Spain

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About RamdohriteHide

Prof. Paul Ramdohr

Formula:

Pb_5.9Fe_0.1Mn_0.1In_0.1Cd_0.2Ag_2.8Sb_10.8S₂₄

Colour:

Grey, bluish black

Lustre:

Metallic

Hardness:

Specific Gravity:

5.43

Crystal System:

Monoclinic

Member of:

Lillianite Homologous Series Group

Name:

Named in honor of Paul Ramdohr (1 January 1890, Überlingen, Germany – 8 March 1985, Hohensachsen/Weinheim, Germany), mineralogist University of Heidelberg, Germany. He researched ore deposits and was a pioneer of ore microscopy. Among numerous medals, he was awarded the Roebling Medal (1962), the Penrose Medal (1972), and the Leonard Medal (1979).

Type Locality:

ⓘ Chocaya mine, Chocaya-Animas mining district (Animas-Chocaya mining district), Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

Type locality ramdohrite has a significant Cd component (Moëlo et al., 1989), and is compositionally close to fizelyite, but it is not known if there is a solid solution (a Cd-rich fizelyite ?), or a miscibility gap.

Chemically somewhat comparable to menchettiite, oyonite, uchucchacuaite, lasmanisite and 'dürfeldtite'.

Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:

3355

Long-form identifier:

mindat:1:1:3355:4

IMA Classification of RamdohriteHide

IMA status:

Approved, 'Grandfathered' (first described prior to 1959)

IMA Formula:

Pb²⁺_5.9Fe²⁺_0.1Mn²⁺_0.1In³⁺_0.1Cd²⁺_0.2Ag¹⁺_2.8Sb³⁺_10.8S^2-₂₄

First published:

1930

Type description reference:

Ahlfeld, F. (1930) Ramdohrit, ein neues Mineral aus Bolivien. Centralblatt für Mineralogie, Geologie und Paläontologie: 8: 365-367.

Classification of RamdohriteHide

Strunz-mindat (2026):

2.JB.40a

2 : SULFIDES and SULFOSALTS (sulfides, selenides, tellurides; arsenides, antimonides, bismuthides; sulfarsenites, sulfantimonites, sulfbismuthites, etc.)
J : Sulfosalts of PbS archetype
B : Galena derivatives, with Pb

Dana 8th ed.:

3.4.15.6

3 : SULFOSALTS
4 : ø = 3

Hey's CIM Ref.:

5.7.23

5 : Sulphosalts - Sulpharsenites and Sulphobismuthites (those containing Sn, Ge,or V are in Section 6)
7 : Sulpharsenites etc. of Pb and other metals

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

Please only use the official IMA–CNMNC symbol. Older variants are listed for historical use only.

Symbol	Source	Reference for Standard
Rdh	IMA–CNMNC	Warr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43
Rdr	The Canadian Mineralogist (2019)	The Canadian Mineralogist (2019) The Canadian Mineralogist list of symbols for rock- and ore-forming minerals (December 30, 2019). download

Physical Properties of RamdohriteHide

Lustre:

Metallic

Transparency:

Opaque

Colour:

Grey, bluish black

Streak:

Black, grey

Hardness:

2 on Mohs scale

Tenacity:

Brittle

Fracture:

Irregular/Uneven

Density:

5.43 g/cm³ (Measured) 5.543 g/cm³ (Calculated)

Optical Data of RamdohriteHide

Anisotropism:

Moderate

Reflectivity:

Wavelength	R₁ (%)	R₂ (%)
400nm	39.3%	43.1%
420nm	38.8%	42.8%
440nm	38.3%	42.5%
460nm	37.8%	42.2%
480nm	37.4%	42.0%
500nm	36.9%	41.6%
520nm	36.5%	41.2%
540nm	36.0%	40.9%
560nm	35.7%	40.5%
580nm	35.3%	40.2%
600nm	34.8%	39.7%
620nm	34.4%	39.2%
640nm	34.0%	38.7%
660nm	33.4%	38.0%
680nm	32.8%	37.3%
700nm	32.0%	36.4%

Graph shows reflectance levels at different wavelengths (in nm). Peak reflectance is 43.1%.
R₁ shown in black, R₂ shown in red

Colour in reflected light:

White

Pleochroism:

Weak

Comments:

Very weak.

Chemistry of RamdohriteHide

Mindat Formula:

Pb_5.9Fe_0.1Mn_0.1In_0.1Cd_0.2Ag_2.8Sb_10.8S₂₄

Element Weights:

Element	% weight
Sb	35.987 %
Pb	33.455 %
S	21.060 %
Ag	8.266 %
Cd	0.615 %
In	0.314 %
Fe	0.153 %
Mn	0.150 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.

Elements listed:

Ag, Cd, Fe, In, Mn, Pb, S, Sb - search for minerals with similar chemistry

Common Impurities:

Fe,Cd,In

Crystallography of RamdohriteHide

Crystal System:

Monoclinic

Class (H-M):

2/m - Prismatic

Cell Parameters:

a = 8.7348(3) Å, b = 13.0543(4) Å, c = 19.3117(6) Å
β = 90.179(2)°

Ratio:

a:b:c = 0.669 : 1 : 1.479

Unit Cell V:

2,202.04 Å³ (Calculated from Unit Cell)

Twinning:

Lamellar on (010).

Comment:

Space group P21/n. Originally given cell: a = 13.09, b = 19.24, c = 8.73 A, beta = 90.3°.

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ID	Species	Reference	Link	Year	Locality	Pressure (GPa)	Temp (K)
0014713	Ramdohrite	Makovicky E, Mumme W G (1983) The crystal structure of ramdohrite, Pb6Sb11Ag3S24, and its implications for the andorite group and zinckenite Neues Jahrbuch fur Mineralogie, Abhandlungen 147 58-79		1983	Chocaya Mine, Potosi, Bolivia	0	293

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SbM2   0.05700   0.62270   0.12810   1.00000 ?
PbM3   0.25020   0.58320   0.39900   1.00000 ?
AgM4   0.35790   0.32390   0.12000   1.00000 ?
PbM5   0.45080   0.60970   0.12980   1.00000 ?
SbM6   0.12750   0.35440   0.62070   1.00000 ?
SbM7   0.05300   0.63490   0.63730   1.00000 ?
PbM8   0.24500   0.59880   0.89020   1.00000 ?
SbM9   0.37080   0.35120   0.61870   0.50000 ?
AgM9   0.37080   0.35120   0.61870   0.50000 ?
SbM10   0.44810   0.62200   0.64390   1.00000 ?
S1   0.10660   0.49800   0.34630   1.00000   0.02748
S2  -0.00150   0.26540   0.14140   1.00000   0.03040
S3   0.27200   0.45190   0.14500   1.00000   0.02634
S4   0.16190   0.72250   0.11170   1.00000   0.02254
S5   0.39800   0.52000   0.41760   1.00000   0.03926
S6   0.33130   0.74030   0.08180   1.00000   0.03521
S7   0.09900   0.50150   0.91560   1.00000   0.02470
S8   0.48600   0.25600   0.09190   1.00000   0.03166
S9   0.24120   0.43830   0.63710   1.00000   0.01684
S10   0.17120   0.71050   0.64540   1.00000   0.02343
S11   0.41130   0.50030   0.85010   1.00000   0.03458
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SbM1 0.02250 0.03554 0.02201 0.00000 -0.00851 0.00000
SbM2 0.02250 0.03207 0.02857 0.00000 -0.00766 0.00000
PbM3 0.03563 0.03034 0.04749 0.00000 0.00681 0.00000
AgM4 0.04126 0.05200 0.12162 0.00000 0.01106 0.00000
PbM5 0.03000 0.03814 0.04942 0.00000 -0.01447 0.00000
SbM6 0.02063 0.02254 0.03282 0.00000 -0.01361 0.00000
SbM7 0.02625 0.02947 0.01583 0.00000 -0.01191 0.00000
PbM8 0.03938 0.03814 0.05714 0.00000 -0.01106 0.00000
SbM9 0.03188 0.02600 0.07838 0.00000 -0.02468 0.00000
AgM9 0.03188 0.02600 0.07915 0.00000 -0.02468 0.00000
SbM10 0.02250 0.02947 0.04324 0.00000 -0.01447 0.00000

X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Powder Diffraction Data:

d-spacing	Intensity
3.82 Å	(20)
3.48 Å	(30)
3.32 Å	(100)
3.04 Å	(30)
2.94 Å	(60)
2.78 Å	(50)
2.21 Å	(50)

Geological EnvironmentHide

Paragenetic Mode(s):

Paragenetic Mode	Earliest Age (Ga)
High-? alteration and/or metamorphism
33 : Minerals deposited by hydrothermal metal-rich fluids (see also [#12])

Type Occurrence of RamdohriteHide

Type Locality:

ⓘ Chocaya mine, Chocaya-Animas mining district (Animas-Chocaya mining district), Atocha Municipality, Sud Chichas Province, Potosí, Bolivia

General Appearance of Type Material:

Long prismatic to thick lance-shaped reticulating individuals in fine grained quartz.

Place of Conservation of Type Material:

National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA (R6595).

Associated Minerals at Type Locality:

Reference:

Ahlfeld, F. (1930) Ramdohrit, ein neues Mineral aus Bolivien. Centralblatt für Mineralogie, Geologie und Paläontologie: 8: 365-367.

Other Language Names for RamdohriteHide

Dutch:Ramdohriet

German:Ramdohrit

Russian:Рамдорит

Simplified Chinese:辉锑银铅矿

Spanish:Ramdohrita

Varieties of RamdohriteHide

Bismuth-bearing Ramdohrite

Relationship of Ramdohrite to other SpeciesHide

Member of:

Lillianite Homologous Series Group

Other Members of Lillianite Homologous Series:

Andreadiniite	CuHgAg₇Pb₇Sb₂₄S₄₈	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Arsenquatrandorite	Ag_17.6Pb_12.8Sb_38.1As_11.5S₉₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Aschamalmite	Pb_6-3xBi_2+xS₉	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
Baiamareite	Ag₄Pb₁₂Fe₄Sb₂₀S₄₈	Mon. 2/m
Brusnitsynite	Mn₃CuPbAs₃Sb₂S₁₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Clino-oscarkempffite	Ag₁₅Pb₆Sb₂₁Bi₁₈S₇₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Erzwiesite	Ag₈Pb₁₂Bi₁₆S₄₀	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cmcm
Eskimoite	Ag₇Pb₁₀Bi₁₅S₃₆	Mon.
Fizélyite	Ag₅Pb₁₄Sb₂₁S₄₈	Mon. 2/m
Gustavite	AgPbBi₃S₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
Heyrovskýite	Pb₆Bi₂S₉	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cccm
Holubite	Ag₃Pb₆(Sb₈Bi₃)S₂₄	Mon. 2/m
Jasrouxite	Ag₁₆Pb₄(Sb₂₅As₁₅)S₇₂	Tric. 1 : P1
Lasmanisite	Ag₁₂Pb₁₃Mn₁₁Sb₄₄S₉₆	Orth. 222 : P2₁2₁2₁
Lazerckerite	Ag_3.75Pb_4.50(Sb_7.75Bi₄)S₂₄	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Lillianite	Pb_3-2xAg_xBi_2+xS₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
Menchettiite	AgPb_2.40Mn_1.60Sb₃As₂S₁₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Oscarkempffite	Ag₁₀Pb₄(Sb₁₇Bi₉)S₄₈	Orth. mm2
Ourayite	Ag₃Pb₄Bi₅S₁₃	Orth.
Oyonite	Ag₃Mn₂Pb₄Sb₇As₄S₂₄	Mon. 2/m
Quatrandorite	AgPbSb₃S₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Roshchinite	Ag₁₉Pb₁₀Sb₅₁S₉₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
'Schirmerite'	PbAgBi₃S₆ - Pb₃Ag_1.5Bi_3.5S₉	Orth.
Senandorite	AgPbSb₃S₆	Orth. mm2 : Pmn2₁
Staročeskéite	Ag_0.70Pb_1.60(Bi_1.35Sb_1.35)_Σ2.70S₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cmcm
Tarutinoite	Ag₃Pb₇Bi₇S₁₉	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
Terrywallaceite	AgPb(Sb,Bi)₃S₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
Treasurite	Ag₇Pb₆Bi₁₅S₃₂	Mon.
Uchucchacuaite	AgMnPb₃Sb₅S₁₂	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pmmm
Ustarasite	Pb(Bi,Sb)₆S₁₀ (?)
Vikingite	Ag₅Pb₈Bi₁₃S₃₀	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
Xilingolite	Pb₃Bi₂S₆	Mon.

Structurally related to group(s):

'Ramdohrite-Lillianite Group'

Imprecise and obsolete name.

Common AssociatesHide

Associations Based on Photo Data:

1 photo of Ramdohrite associated with Galena	PbS
1 photo of Ramdohrite associated with Sphalerite	ZnS
1 photo of Ramdohrite associated with Siderite	FeCO₃
1 photo of Ramdohrite associated with Bournonite	PbCuSbS₃
1 photo of Ramdohrite associated with Pyrite	FeS₂

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping Hide

2.JB.	Clino-oscarkempffite	Ag₁₅Pb₆Sb₂₁Bi₁₈S₇₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.	Arsenquatrandorite	Ag_17.6Pb_12.8Sb_38.1As_11.5S₉₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.	Ginelfite	Ag₂(Ag_0.5Fe)TlPb_23.5(Sb,As)_33.5S₇₆	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.	Andreadiniite	CuHgAg₇Pb₇Sb₂₄S₄₈	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.	Chukotkaite	AgPb₇Sb₅S₁₅	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.	Selenojunoite	Cu₂Pb₃Bi₈Se₁₆	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.	Lechnerite	Ag₁₀Cu₄HgPb₃₃Sb₅₈S₁₂₈	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.	Cuprosenandorite	Ag₁₆Cu₈Pb₂₄Sb₇₂S₁₄₄	Orth. mm2 : Pna2₁
2.JB.	Morleyite	Ag₂CuPb₂₅Sb₂₄As₄S_68.5	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.	Lazerckerite	Ag_3.75Pb_4.50(Sb_7.75Bi₄)S₂₄	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.	Lasmanisite	Ag₁₂Pb₁₃Mn₁₁Sb₄₄S₉₆	Orth. 222 : P2₁2₁2₁
2.JB.	Montpelvouxite	AgPb₁₆Sb₂₇As₁₈S₈₄	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.	Senandorite	AgPbSb₃S₆	Orth. mm2 : Pmn2₁
2.JB.	Oscarkempffite	Ag₁₀Pb₄(Sb₁₇Bi₉)S₄₈	Orth. mm2
2.JB.05	Diaphorite	Ag₃Pb₂Sb₃S₈	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.10	Cosalite	Pb₂Bi₂S₅	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
2.JB.15	Marrite	AgPbAsS₃	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.15	Freieslebenite	AgPbSbS₃	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.20	Cannizzarite	Pb₄₈Bi₅₆S₁₃₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/m
2.JB.20	Wittite	Pb₉Bi₁₂(S,Se)₂₇	Mon.
2.JB.25j	Rouxelite	Cu₂HgPb₂₃Sb₂₇S_65.5	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.25i	Neyite	Ag₂Cu₆Pb₂₅Bi₂₆S₆₈	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.25a	Junoite	Cu₂Pb₃Bi₈(S,Se)₁₆	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.25f	Ángelaite	Cu₂AgPbBiS₄	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
2.JB.25e	Galenobismutite	PbBi₂S₄	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
2.JB.25c	Nordströmite	CuPb₃Bi₇(Se₄S₁₀)	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/m
2.JB.25i	Cuproneyite	Cu₇Pb₂₇Bi₂₅S₆₈	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.25g	Nuffieldite	Cu_1.4Pb_2.4Bi_2.4Sb_0.2S₇	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
2.JB.25h	Weibullite	Pb₅Bi₈Se₇S₁₁	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
2.JB.25d	Proudite	CuPb_7.5Bi_9.33(S,Se)₂₂	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.25b	Felbertalite	Cu₂Pb₆Bi₈S₁₉	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.30a	Jordanite	Pb₁₄As₆S₂₃	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/m
2.JB.30a	Geocronite	Pb₁₄Sb₆S₂₃	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/m
2.JB.30a	Arsenmarcobaldiite	Pb₁₂(As_3.2Sb_2.8)_Σ6S₂₁	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.30b	Kirkiite	Pb₁₀Bi₃As₃S₁₉	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/m
2.JB.30c	Tsugaruite	Pb₂₈As₁₅S₅₀Cl	Orth. mm2 : Pnn2
2.JB.30a	Marcobaldiite	Pb₁₂(Sb₃As₂Bi)_Σ6S₂₁	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.35d	Pellouxite	(Cu,Ag)Pb₁₀Sb₁₂S₂₇O(Cl,S)_0.6	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.35e	Chovanite	Pb_15-2xSb_14+2xS₃₆O_x (x ~ 0.2)	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.35a	Zinkenite	Pb₉Sb₂₂S₄₂	Hex. 6 : P6₃
2.JB.35c	Pillaite	Pb₉Sb₁₀S₂₃ClO_0.5	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.35b	Scainiite	Pb₁₄Sb₃₀S₅₄O₅	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.35f	Tubulite	Ag₂Pb₂₂Sb₂₀S₅₃	Mon. m : Pb
2.JB.40a	Fizélyite	Ag₅Pb₁₄Sb₂₁S₄₈	Mon. 2/m
2.JB.40e	Ustarasite	Pb(Bi,Sb)₆S₁₀ (?)
2.JB.40a	'Bursaite'	Pb₅Bi₄S₁₁ (?)	Orth.
2.JB.40	'UM1988-05-S:AgBiCuHgPb'	(Hg,Ag,Cu,Pb)₅Pb₅Bi₁₁S₂₇
2.JB.40	'UM1988-06-S:AgBiCuHgPb'	(Pb,Hg)₁₂(Cu,Ag)₃(Bi,Sb)₁₀(S,Te)₂₇
2.JB.40a	Terrywallaceite	AgPb(Sb,Bi)₃S₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.40a	Jasrouxite	Ag₁₆Pb₄(Sb₂₅As₁₅)S₇₂	Tric. 1 : P1
2.JB.40a	Tarutinoite	Ag₃Pb₇Bi₇S₁₉	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.40a	Oyonite	Ag₃Mn₂Pb₄Sb₇As₄S₂₄	Mon. 2/m
2.JB.40b	Heyrovskýite	Pb₆Bi₂S₉	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cccm
2.JB.40a	Quatrandorite	AgPbSb₃S₆	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.40a	Erzwiesite	Ag₈Pb₁₂Bi₁₆S₄₀	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cmcm
2.JB.40a	Vikingite	Ag₅Pb₈Bi₁₃S₃₀	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.40a	Lillianite	Pb_3-2xAg_xBi_2+xS₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
2.JB.40b	Baiamareite	Ag₄Pb₁₂Fe₄Sb₂₀S₄₈	Mon. 2/m
2.JB.40a	Staročeskéite	Ag_0.70Pb_1.60(Bi_1.35Sb_1.35)_Σ2.70S₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Cmcm
2.JB.40a	Roshchinite	Ag₁₉Pb₁₀Sb₅₁S₉₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
2.JB.40b	Aschamalmite	Pb_6-3xBi_2+xS₉	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.40b	Eskimoite	Ag₇Pb₁₀Bi₁₅S₃₆	Mon.
2.JB.40a	Menchettiite	AgPb_2.40Mn_1.60Sb₃As₂S₁₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.40a	Holubite	Ag₃Pb₆(Sb₈Bi₃)S₂₄	Mon. 2/m
2.JB.40a	Brusnitsynite	Mn₃CuPbAs₃Sb₂S₁₂	Mon. 2/m : P2₁/b
2.JB.40a	Treasurite	Ag₇Pb₆Bi₁₅S₃₂	Mon.
2.JB.40c	Ourayite	Ag₃Pb₄Bi₅S₁₃	Orth.
2.JB.40a	Uchucchacuaite	AgMnPb₃Sb₅S₁₂	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pmmm
2.JB.40d	'Schirmerite'	PbAgBi₃S₆ - Pb₃Ag_1.5Bi_3.5S₉	Orth.
2.JB.40a	Xilingolite	Pb₃Bi₂S₆	Mon.
2.JB.40a	Gustavite	AgPbBi₃S₆	Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
2.JB.55	Gratonite	Pb₉As₄S₁₅	Trig. 3m : R3m
2.JB.60	Marrucciite	Hg₃Pb₁₆Sb₁₈S₄₆	Mon. 2/m : B2/m
2.JB.65	Vurroite	Pb₂₀Sn₂(Bi,As)₂₂S₅₄Cl₆	Mon. 2/m : B2/b
2.JB.65	Tazieffite	Pb₂₀Cd₂(As,Bi)₂₂S₅₀Cl₁₀	Mon. 2/m : B2/b
2.JB.70	Daliranite	PbHgAs₂S₅	Mon.

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Ahlfeld, F. (1930) Ramdohrit, ein neues Mineral aus Bolivien. Centralblatt für Mineralogie, Geologie und Paläontologie: 8: 365-367.

Foshag, W.F. (1931) New mineral names. American Mineralogist: 16: 132-132.

Palache, Charles, Berman, Harry, Frondel, Clifford (1944) The System of Mineralogy (7th ed.) Vol. 1 - Elements, Sulfides, Sulfosalts, Oxides. John Wiley and Sons, New York.pp.450-451

Donnay, J. D. H., Donnay, Gabrielle (1954) Syntaxic intergrowths in the andorite series. American Mineralogist, 39 (3-4) 161-171

Kawada, I., Hellner, E. (1971) Die Kristallstruktur der Pseudozelle (sub cell) von Andorit VI (Ramdohrit). Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Monatshefte: 1971: 551-560.

Fleischer, Michael (1972) New Mineral Names. American Mineralogist, 57 (9-10) 1552-1561

Fleischer, Michael, Cabri, Louis J., Nickel, Ernest H., Pabst, Adolf (1977) New Mineral Names. American Mineralogist, 62 (5-6) 593-600

Makovicky, E., Mumme, W.G. (1983) The crystal structure of ramdohrite, Pb6Sb11Ag3S24, and its implications for the andorite group and zinckenite. Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Abhandlungen: 147: 58-79.

Moëlo, Y., Makovicky, E., Karup-Møller, S. (1984) New data on the minerals of the andorite series. Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie - Monatshefte, 1984. 175-182

Dunn, Pete J.; Cabri, Louis J.; Chao, George Y.; Fleischer, Michael; Francis, Carl A.; Grice, Joel D.; Jambor, John L.; Pabst, Adolf (1984) New mineral names. American Mineralogist, 69 (3-4). 406-412

Dunn, Pete J., Chao, George Y., Fleischer, Michael, Ferraiolo, James A., Langley, Richard H., Pabst, Adolf, Zilczer, Janet A. (1985) New mineral names. American Mineralogist, 70 (1-2) 214-221

Moëlo, Y., et al. (1989) Sulfures complexes plombo-argentiferes: mineralogie et cristallochemie de la serie andorite-fizelyite, (Pb,Mn,Fe,Cd,Sn)3-2x(Ag,Cu)2(Sb,Bi,As)2+x(S,Se)6. Documents du BRGM, 167, BRGM ed., Orleans, 107p.

Borodayev, Yu. S., et al. (1990): Bismuthian ramdohrite, a new sulfosalt: Doklady Akad. Nauk SSSR, 305,1468-1473. [Abstract in: American Mineralogist 76 (1991), 2020.]

Jambor, John L., Burke, Ernst A. J. (1991) New Mineral Names. American Mineralogist, 76 (11-12) 2020-2026

Moëlo, Yves, Makovicky, Emil, Mozgova, Nadejda N., Jambor, John L., Cook, Nigel, Pring, Allan, Paar, Werner, Nickel, Ernest H., Graeser, Stephan, Karup-Møller, Sven, Balic-unic, Tonči, Mumme, William G., Vurro, Filippo, Topa, Dan (2008) Sulfosalt systematics: a review. Report of the sulfosalt sub-committee of the IMA Commission on Ore Mineralogy. European Journal of Mineralogy, 20 (1) 7-62 doi:10.1127/0935-1221/2008/0020-1778

Yang, H., Downs, R. T., Burt, J. B., Costin, G. (2009) Structure refinement of an untwinned single crystal of Ag-excess fizélyite, Ag_5.94Pb_13.74Sb_20.84S₄₈,. The Canadian Mineralogist, 47 (5) 1257-1264 doi:10.3749/canmin.47.5.1257

NESPOLO, Massimo, OZAWA, Tohru, KAWASAKI, Yusuke, SUGIYAMA, Kazumasa (2012) Structural relations and pseudosymmetries in the andorite homologous series. Journal of Mineralogical and Petrological Sciences, 107 (6) 226-243 doi:10.2465/jmps.120730

Makovicky, E., Mumme, W. G., Gable, R. W. (2013) The crystal structure of ramdohrite, Pb_5.9Fe_0.1Mn_0.1In_0.1Cd_0.2Ag_2.8Sb_10.8S₂₄: A new refinement. American Mineralogist, 98 (4) 773-779 doi:10.2138/am.2013.4146

(2017) Ramdohrite. Handbook of Mineralogy. Mineralogical Society of America

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Argentina
Jujuy Province Rinconada Department Mina Pirquitas ⓘ Pirquitas Mine	Silver Standard Resources Inc
San Miguel Open pit ⓘ Oploca Vein System	Paar et al. (2000)

Bolivia
Oruro Cercado Province Oruro ⓘ San José Mine	Keutsch et al. (2008)
Poopó Province ⓘ Poopó	Torres et al. (2019)
Potosí Antonio Quijarro Province Porco Municipality Agua de Castilla Porco ⓘ Tornohuaico mine	Kempff et al. (La Paz, 2009)
Sud Chichas Province Atocha Municipality Chocaya-Animas mining district (Animas-Chocaya mining district) ⓘ Ánimas Mine	+1 other reference
ⓘ Chocaya mine (TL)	Ahlfeld (1930) +2 other references
ⓘ Siete Suyos mine	collections of Alfredo Petrov & ... +1 other reference
ⓘ Tatasí	Wilson (2001)
ⓘ Portugalete mines	Federico Ahlfeld y Alejandro Schneider-Scherbina (1964)

Bulgaria
Kardzhali Province Momchilgrad Municipality Sedefche ⓘ Sedefche deposit	Strashimirov et al. (2005)
ⓘ North ore body	Strashimirov et al. (2005)

China
Guangxi Hechi Nandan County ⓘ Tongkeng-Changpo Mine	Mineral Deposits 4 (1)
Nanning Long'an County ⓘ Fenghuangshan Ag-Pb-Zn deposit	Anthony
Hunan Chenzhou Yizhang Co. Yaogangxian W-Sn ore field ⓘ Yaogangxian Mine	Bosheng Zhou et al. (2002)
Jiangxi Shangrao Wannian Co. ⓘ Hujiajian Ag-Au deposit (Wannian Ag-Au deposit)	Dong Zhensheng et al. (1996)
Sichuan Garzê Autonomous Prefecture (Ganzi Autonomous Prefecture) Baiyü County ⓘ Nongduke Au-Ag-polymetallic deposit (Nongdouke Au-Ag-polymetallic deposit)	Xiaoming Qu et al. (2001)
Garzê County (Ganzi County) ⓘ Kalelong Mine	Gui He and Xipeng Hu (2009)
Yunnan Honghe Mengzi City ⓘ Bainiuchang Ag-polymetallic deposit	Xinpei Jiang (1994) +1 other reference

Czech Republic
Central Bohemian Region Kutná Hora District Kutná Hora ⓘ Roveňské pásmo Lode	Pažout et al. (2024)

Finland
Southwest Finland Salo Kisko ⓘ Metsämonttu mine	Geological Survey of Finland ...

France
Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes Haute-Loire Brioude Langeac Marsanges ⓘ Marsanges Mine	Moëlo et al. (1989)
Grand Est Bas-Rhin Sélestat-Erstein Lalaye Charbes ⓘ Charbes Sb Veins	Wittern et al. (1997)
Occitanie Tarn Castres Montredon-Labessonnié Peyrebrune ⓘ Le Rivet Quarry	Georges FAVREAU collection + EDX ...
Pays de la Loire Vendée La Roche-sur-Yon ⓘ Bazoges-en-Paillers	Moëlo et al. (1989)

Greece
Attica East Attica Lavreotiki ⓘ Agios Konstantinos (Kamariza)	Voudouris et al. (2008)

India
Rajasthan Bhilwara District ⓘ Rampura-Agucha Zn-(Pb) deposit ?	Höller et al. (1995)

Japan
Hokkaidō Prefecture Shiribeshi Subprefecture Furubira District ⓘ ~~Inakuraishi mine~~	AMNH specimen

Mexico
Mexico Temascaltepec Municipality Temascaltepec de González (Temascaltepec) ⓘ La Guitarra mine (La Guitarra deposit)	Camprubi

Morocco
Marrakesh-Safi Region Al Haouz Province Amizmiz Cercle Guedmioua Caïdat Azgour ⓘ Amensif deposit	Ilmen et al. (2024)

North Macedonia
Kavadarci Municipality Ržanovo ⓘ Allchar	Boev et al. (1993)

Norway
Nordland Rana ⓘ Mofjellet	Nigel J. Cook
ⓘ Mofjellet Base Metal Mine	Cook (2001)

Peru
Ancash Huaraz Province Independencia District ⓘ Santo Toribio mine	Olivo et al. (2003)

Romania
Maramureș County Baia Mare ⓘ Herja Mine	Papp et al. (2007)

Russia
Murmansk Oblast Voron'i Tundry ⓘ Oleninskoye gold deposity	A. A. Kalinin et al. (2016)
Sakha Indigirka River Basin Ust'-Nera ⓘ Alyaskitovoye Sn-W deposit	[var: Bismuth-bearing Ramdohrite] Jambor et al. (1994)
Verkhoyansk Fold Belt Verkhoyansk Silver Province ⓘ Prognoz Sn-Ag deposit	Gamyanin et al. (1998) +1 other reference
Sverdlovsk Oblast Serovsky District Turya river Tur'insk ⓘ Vorontsovskoe deposit (Vorontsovsk gold deposit; Vorontsovka deposit)	Kasatkin et al. (2020) +1 other reference

Slovakia
Banská Bystrica Region Revúca District Chyžné ⓘ Herichová	Bálintová T. et al. (Slovakia) +1 other reference
Žiar nad Hronom District Kremnica ⓘ Kremnica Au-Ag deposit	Martin Števko-unpublished
Prešov Region Prešov District Zlatá Baňa ⓘ Zlatá Baňa deposit	Duda et. all.
ⓘ Base metal deposit	specialities of chemical composition. ... +1 other reference

Spain
Andalusia Almería Pechina Baños de Alhamilla ⓘ Mina Casualidad	Rewitzer et al. (2020)

USA
California Inyo County Bishop Mining District (Tungsten Hills Mining District) Round Valley ⓘ Round Valley Mine	Bateman (1965) +2 other references
Michigan Menominee County ⓘ Back Forty Deposit	Quigley +1 other reference
Washington King County Buena Vista Mining District ⓘ Bear Basin Mines ?	...

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