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Timroseite

A valid IMA mineral species
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Timroseite

Bird Nest E3, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite, etc.

Bird Nest drift, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite

Bird Nest drift, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite

Bird Nest E3, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite, etc.

Bird Nest drift, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite

Bird Nest drift, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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Timroseite

Bird Nest E3, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
03338840017271951089519.jpg
Timroseite, etc.

Bird Nest drift, Otto Mountain, Baker, Soda Mountains, Silver Lake Mining District, San Bernardino County, California, USA
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About TimroseiteHide

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Timothy (Tim) P. Rose
Formula:
Pb2Cu5(TeO6)2(OH)2
Colour:
Olive to lime green, dark olive green
Lustre:
Adamantine, Dull
Hardness:
2½
Specific Gravity:
6.982 (Calculated)
Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Name:
Named in honor of Mr. Timothy Rose, American geochemist, mineral collector/micromounter, of Tracy, California, who collected studied material.
This page provides mineralogical data about Timroseite.


Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
39836
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:39836:3

IMA Classification of TimroseiteHide

Classification of TimroseiteHide

Strunz-mindat (2026):
7.BB.65

7 : SULFATES (selenates, tellurates, chromates, molybdates, wolframates)
B : Sulfates (selenates, etc.) with additional anions, without H2O
B : With medium-sized cations

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

SymbolSourceReference for Standard
TimIMA–CNMNCWarr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43

Pronunciation of TimroseiteHide

Pronunciation:
PlayRecorded byCountry
Jolyon RalphUnited Kingdom

Physical Properties of TimroseiteHide

Lustre:
Adamantine, Dull
Colour:
Olive to lime green, dark olive green
Streak:
Very pale yellowish green
Hardness:
2½ on Mohs scale
Hardness Data:
Estimated
Tenacity:
Brittle
Cleavage:
None Observed
Fracture:
Irregular/Uneven
Density:
6.982 g/cm3 (Calculated)

Optical Data of TimroseiteHide

Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
n = 2.113
Surface Relief:
Very High (positive)
Relative to Canada balsam mounting medium (n ≈ 1.537).

This shows the grain boundary and Becke line effect under plane-polarised light, based on the contrast between this mineral's average refractive index and the mounting medium. It does not take into account mineral colouration.
In focus
Dispersion:
None observed.
Pleochroism:
Visible
Comments:
X = greenish yellow, Y = yellowish green, Z = dark green.
Comments:
Average refractive index (n = 2.113) was calculated from the Gladstone-Dale relationship. 2V = large.

Chemistry of TimroseiteHide

Mindat Formula:
Pb2Cu5(TeO6)2(OH)2
Element Weights:
Element% weight
Pb34.154 %
Cu26.186 %
Te21.033 %
O18.461 %
H0.166 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.
Elements listed:
Cu, H, O, Pb, Te - search for minerals with similar chemistry
Common Impurities:
Cl

Crystallography of TimroseiteHide

Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Class (H-M):
mm2 - Pyramidal
Space Group:
Pmn21
Cell Parameters:
a = 11.5340(5) Å, b = 9.6225(4) Å, c = 5.2000(2) Å
Ratio:
a:b:c = 1.199 : 1 : 0.54
Unit Cell V:
577.13 ų
Z:
2
Morphology:
Observed forms: {001}, {110} and {010}.
Twinning:
No twinning was observed.
Comment:
Original space group setting: P21nm

Crystal StructureHide

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0017721TimroseiteKampf A R, Mills S J, Housley R M, Marty J, Thorne B (2010) Lead-tellurium oxysalts from Otto Mountain near Baker, California: V. Timroseite, Pb2Cu2+5(Te6+O6)2(OH)2, and paratimroseite, Pb2Cu2+4(Te6+O6)2(H2O)2, two new tellurates with Te-Cu polyhedral sheets American Mineralogist 95 1560-15682010Otto Mountain, Baker, California0293
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X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacingIntensity
3.693 Å(43)
3.578 Å(44)
3.383 Å(30)
3.008 Å(84)
2.950 Å(88)
2.870 Å(30)
2.732 Å(100)
1.983 Å(30)
1.785 Å(33)
1.475 Å(36)

Geological EnvironmentHide

Type Occurrence of TimroseiteHide

Synonyms of TimroseiteHide

Other Language Names for TimroseiteHide

German:Timroseit

Common AssociatesHide

Associations Based on Photo Data:
34 photos of Timroseite associated with KhinitePb2+Cu2+3[Te6+O6](OH)2
17 photos of Timroseite associated with QuartzSiO2
14 photos of Timroseite associated with Native GoldAu
9 photos of Timroseite associated with ChlorargyriteAgCl
5 photos of Timroseite associated with ThorneitePb6(Te6+2O10)(CO3)Cl2(H2O)
4 photos of Timroseite associated with ChrysocollaCu2-xAlx(H2-xSi2O5)(OH)4 · nH2O, x < 1
4 photos of Timroseite associated with FuettereritePb3Cu2+6Te6+O6(OH)7Cl5
3 photos of Timroseite associated with CaledonitePb5Cu2(SO4)3(CO3)(OH)6
3 photos of Timroseite associated with FluoriteCaF2
3 photos of Timroseite associated with HousleyitePb6CuTe6+4O18(OH)2

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

7.BB.IskandaroviteSb6O7(SO4)2Orth. mm2 : Ccc2
7.BB.BrumadoiteCu3(Te6+O4)(OH)4 · 5H2OMon. 2/m : P21/m
7.BB.Novikovite(NH4)4Mo6+2Mo5+2O8(SO4)5Mon. 2/m
7.BB.10HauckiteFe3+3(Mg,Mn2+)24Zn18(SO4)4(CO3)2(OH)81Hex. 6/mmm(6/m2/m2/m) : P6/mmm
7.BB.15AntleriteCu3(SO4)(OH)4Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
7.BB.20DolerophaniteCu2(SO4)OMon. 2/m : B2/m
7.BB.25BrochantiteCu4(SO4)(OH)6Mon. 2/m : P21/b
7.BB.25RamaccioniiteCu4[SeO4](OH)6Mon. 2/m : P21/b
7.BB.30VergasovaiteCu3(SO4)(MoO4,SO4)OOrth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m)
7.BB.30CupromolybditeCu3O(MoO4)2Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
7.BB.35KlebelsbergiteSb4O4(SO4)(OH)2Orth. mm2
7.BB.35TavagnascoiteBi4O4(SO4)(OH)2Orth. mm2 : Pca21
7.BB.40SchuetteiteHg2+3O2(SO4)Trig. 32 : P3121
7.BB.45ParaotwayiteNi(OH)2-x(SO4,CO3)0.5xMon.
7.BB.50XocomecatliteCu3(TeO4)(OH)4Orth.
7.BB.55Pauflerite(V4+O)SO4Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pnma
7.BB.60GrandviewiteCu3Al2(SO4)(OH)10 · H2OTric. 1 : P1
7.BB.70GlikiniteZn3O(SO4)2Mon. 2/m : P21/m
7.BB.80MojaveiteCu6[Te6+O4(OH)2](OH)7ClTrig. 3 : R3
7.BB.85ParatimroseitePb2Cu4(TeO6)2(H2O)2Orth. 222 : P212121

Fluorescence of TimroseiteHide

In UV light:
Non-fluorescent.

Other InformationHide

Notes:
In dilute HCl, timroseite immediately decomposes, turning opaque white, and then the residue slowly dissolves.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

Internet Links for TimroseiteHide

References for TimroseiteHide

Localities for TimroseiteHide

Showing 14 localities.

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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
USA
 
  • Arizona
    • Cochise County
      • Carr Canyon
Walstrom (n.d.)
      • Tombstone Mining District
        • Silver Plume Mine
Marek Chorazewicz (2022)
  • California
    • San Bernardino County
      • Silver Lake Mining District
        • Soda Mountains
          • Baker
Kampf et al. (2010)
Kampf et al. (2010) +2 other references
Marek Chorazewicz (2019)
Joe Marty specimens +3 other references
Rocks & Minerals 86:132-142
King (n.d.) +1 other reference
Housley R.
Thorne (n.d.)
Thorne (n.d.)
  • Nevada
    • Lincoln County
      • Delamar Mining District
Marek Chorazewicz (2024)
  • New Mexico
    • Hidalgo County
      • Peloncillo Mountains
        • San Simon Mining District
Collected by Ron Gibbs and XRD ...
Marty et al. (2010)
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