Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USAi
| Regional Level Types | |
|---|---|
| Talcville | Hamlet |
| Edwards | Town |
| St. Lawrence County | County |
| New York | State |
| USA | Country |
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Latitude & Longitude (WGS84):
44° 18' 34'' North , 75° 18' 23'' West
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Nearest Settlements:
| Place | Population | Distance |
|---|---|---|
| Edwards | 439 (2017) | 4.7km |
| Hailesboro | 624 (2017) | 11.1km |
| Gouverneur | 3,797 (2017) | 12.8km |
| Richville | 320 (2017) | 13.7km |
| Harrisville | 622 (2017) | 17.6km |
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| Club | Location | Distance |
|---|---|---|
| St. Lawrence County Rock & Mineral Club | Canton, New York | 34km |
Notes on the mineral list:
— Material labelled "manganocummingtonite" or "tirodite" (both names discredited) from this locality has been shown to be clino-suenoite by electron microprobe (by Mike Hawkins, curator at the NY State Museum mineral collection). See further discussions at: http://www.mindat.org/mesg-7-206424.html
— Additional material labeled "tirodite" from this locality was confirmed to be anthophyllite by XRD performed by John Attard on a sample submitted by John Duck in April 2012.
— Visual identification, under daylight, of either mineral or similar-looking tremolite, commonly together in samples, is not possible. However, under UV light the tremolite fluoresces yellow-orange, and the clino-suenoite/anthophyllite fluoresces pink/reddish. Detailed analyses are still needed to separate the latter two minerals.
— Material labelled "manganocummingtonite" or "tirodite" (both names discredited) from this locality has been shown to be clino-suenoite by electron microprobe (by Mike Hawkins, curator at the NY State Museum mineral collection). See further discussions at: http://www.mindat.org/mesg-7-206424.html
— Additional material labeled "tirodite" from this locality was confirmed to be anthophyllite by XRD performed by John Attard on a sample submitted by John Duck in April 2012.
— Visual identification, under daylight, of either mineral or similar-looking tremolite, commonly together in samples, is not possible. However, under UV light the tremolite fluoresces yellow-orange, and the clino-suenoite/anthophyllite fluoresces pink/reddish. Detailed analyses are still needed to separate the latter two minerals.
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This is a list of exploitable or exploited mineral commodities recorded from this region.Mineral List
Mineral list contains entries from the region specified including sub-localities21 valid minerals. 1 erroneous literature entry.
Detailed Mineral List:
| ⓘ Albite Formula: Na(AlSi3O8) |
| ⓘ Anthophyllite Formula: ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ Baryte Formula: BaSO4 |
| ⓘ Calcite Formula: CaCO3 |
| ⓘ Celestine Formula: SrSO4 References: |
| ⓘ Clino-suenoite Formula: ◻Mn2+2(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 Description: Analysed by Hawkins at the NY State Museum. |
| ⓘ Cummingtonite Formula: ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 References: |
| ⓘ Dravite Formula: NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| ⓘ Formula: ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 Locality: International Talc Company Mine (Reynolds Mine), Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA - erroneously reported Description: "Segeler (1961) mistakenly referred to the manganoan cummingtonites from Talcville, New York as "tirodite," because the yellow amphibole from Tirodi contains substantial amounts of Mn and Mg. Unfortunately, Segeler's misidentification of manganoan cummingtonite as tirodite received the blessings of the IMA Commission on New Mineral Names". (Ghose & Hexiong 1989).
Tirodite was discredited in the 1997 paper on amphibole nomenclature as a synonym of Parvowinchite. Thus specimens of manganocummingtonite labelled as tirodite was erronously relabelled as "parvowinchite".
There are no evidence of significant Na content in these amphibioles. |
| ⓘ Fluorapatite Formula: Ca5(PO4)3F |
| ⓘ 'Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series' |
| ⓘ Greenockite Formula: CdS References: |
| ⓘ Groutite Formula: Mn3+O(OH) |
| ⓘ Magnetite Formula: Fe2+Fe3+2O4 References: |
| ⓘ Microcline Formula: K(AlSi3O8) |
| ⓘ Phlogopite Formula: KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ Pyrite Formula: FeS2 |
| ⓘ Quartz Formula: SiO2 References: |
| ⓘ Sepiolite Formula: Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| ⓘ 'Serpentine Subgroup' Formula: D3[Si2O5](OH)4 |
| ⓘ Sphalerite Formula: ZnS |
| ⓘ Talc Formula: Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 Localities: Reported from at least 6 localities in this region. |
| ⓘ Titanite Formula: CaTiO(SiO4) |
| ⓘ Tremolite Formula: ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 Localities: No. 2½ Mine (U.S. Talc 2 1/2 mine; Wintergreen mine), Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA No. 4 Mine, Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA International Talc Company Mine (Reynolds Mine), Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA Green Hill Mining Company Quarry, Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA |
| ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite Formula: ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
Gallery:
List of minerals arranged by Strunz 10th Edition classification
| Group 2 - Sulphides and Sulfosalts | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| ⓘ | Sphalerite | 2.CB.05a | ZnS |
| ⓘ | Greenockite | 2.CB.45 | CdS |
| ⓘ | Pyrite | 2.EB.05a | FeS2 |
| Group 4 - Oxides and Hydroxides | |||
| ⓘ | Magnetite | 4.BB.05 | Fe2+Fe3+2O4 |
| ⓘ | Quartz | 4.DA.05 | SiO2 |
| ⓘ | Groutite | 4.FD.10 | Mn3+O(OH) |
| Group 5 - Nitrates and Carbonates | |||
| ⓘ | Calcite | 5.AB.05 | CaCO3 |
| Group 7 - Sulphates, Chromates, Molybdates and Tungstates | |||
| ⓘ | Baryte | 7.AD.35 | BaSO4 |
| ⓘ | Celestine | 7.AD.35 | SrSO4 |
| Group 8 - Phosphates, Arsenates and Vanadates | |||
| ⓘ | Fluorapatite | 8.BN.05 | Ca5(PO4)3F |
| Group 9 - Silicates | |||
| ⓘ | Titanite | 9.AG.15 | CaTiO(SiO4) |
| ⓘ | Dravite | 9.CK.05 | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| ⓘ | Anthophyllite | 9.DD.05 | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Clino-suenoite | 9.DE. | ◻Mn2+2(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Cummingtonite | 9.DE.05 | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Tremolite | 9.DE.10 | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | var. Hexagonite | 9.DE.10 | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Ferri-ghoseite ? | 9.DE.20 | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Talc | 9.EC.05 | Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Phlogopite | 9.EC.20 | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| ⓘ | Sepiolite | 9.EE.25 | Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| ⓘ | Microcline | 9.FA.30 | K(AlSi3O8) |
| ⓘ | Albite | 9.FA.35 | Na(AlSi3O8) |
| Unclassified | |||
| ⓘ | 'Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series' | - | |
| ⓘ | 'Serpentine Subgroup' | - | D3[Si2O5](OH)4 |
List of minerals for each chemical element
| H | Hydrogen | |
|---|---|---|
| H | ⓘ Anthophyllite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Cummingtonite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| H | ⓘ Groutite | Mn3+O(OH) |
| H | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Sepiolite | Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| H | ⓘ Talc | Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Tremolite | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| H | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Serpentine Subgroup | D3[Si2O5](OH)4 |
| H | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| H | ⓘ Clino-suenoite | ◻Mn22+(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| B | Boron | |
| B | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| B | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| C | Carbon | |
| C | ⓘ Calcite | CaCO3 |
| O | Oxygen | |
| O | ⓘ Albite | Na(AlSi3O8) |
| O | ⓘ Anthophyllite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Baryte | BaSO4 |
| O | ⓘ Calcite | CaCO3 |
| O | ⓘ Celestine | SrSO4 |
| O | ⓘ Cummingtonite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| O | ⓘ Fluorapatite | Ca5(PO4)3F |
| O | ⓘ Groutite | Mn3+O(OH) |
| O | ⓘ Magnetite | Fe2+Fe23+O4 |
| O | ⓘ Microcline | K(AlSi3O8) |
| O | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Quartz | SiO2 |
| O | ⓘ Sepiolite | Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| O | ⓘ Talc | Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Titanite | CaTiO(SiO4) |
| O | ⓘ Tremolite | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| O | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Serpentine Subgroup | D3[Si2O5](OH)4 |
| O | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| O | ⓘ Clino-suenoite | ◻Mn22+(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| F | Fluorine | |
| F | ⓘ Fluorapatite | Ca5(PO4)3F |
| F | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| Na | Sodium | |
| Na | ⓘ Albite | Na(AlSi3O8) |
| Na | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| Na | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| Mg | Magnesium | |
| Mg | ⓘ Anthophyllite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Cummingtonite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| Mg | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Sepiolite | Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| Mg | ⓘ Talc | Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Tremolite | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| Mg | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| Mg | ⓘ Clino-suenoite | ◻Mn22+(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Al | Aluminium | |
| Al | ⓘ Albite | Na(AlSi3O8) |
| Al | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| Al | ⓘ Microcline | K(AlSi3O8) |
| Al | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| Al | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| Si | Silicon | |
| Si | ⓘ Albite | Na(AlSi3O8) |
| Si | ⓘ Anthophyllite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Cummingtonite | ◻Mg2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Dravite | NaMg3Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH) |
| Si | ⓘ Microcline | K(AlSi3O8) |
| Si | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Quartz | SiO2 |
| Si | ⓘ Sepiolite | Mg4(Si6O15)(OH)2 · 6H2O |
| Si | ⓘ Talc | Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Titanite | CaTiO(SiO4) |
| Si | ⓘ Tremolite | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| Si | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Serpentine Subgroup | D3[Si2O5](OH)4 |
| Si | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| Si | ⓘ Clino-suenoite | ◻Mn22+(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| P | Phosphorus | |
| P | ⓘ Fluorapatite | Ca5(PO4)3F |
| S | Sulfur | |
| S | ⓘ Baryte | BaSO4 |
| S | ⓘ Celestine | SrSO4 |
| S | ⓘ Greenockite | CdS |
| S | ⓘ Pyrite | FeS2 |
| S | ⓘ Sphalerite | ZnS |
| K | Potassium | |
| K | ⓘ Microcline | K(AlSi3O8) |
| K | ⓘ Phlogopite | KMg3(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
| Ca | Calcium | |
| Ca | ⓘ Calcite | CaCO3 |
| Ca | ⓘ Fluorapatite | Ca5(PO4)3F |
| Ca | ⓘ Titanite | CaTiO(SiO4) |
| Ca | ⓘ Tremolite | ◻Ca2Mg5(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Ca | ⓘ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series | |
| Ca | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Ti | Titanium | |
| Ti | ⓘ Titanite | CaTiO(SiO4) |
| Mn | Manganese | |
| Mn | ⓘ Groutite | Mn3+O(OH) |
| Mn | ⓘ Tremolite var. Hexagonite | ◻{Ca2}{(Mg,Mn)5}(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Mn | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| Mn | ⓘ Clino-suenoite | ◻Mn22+(Mg5)(Si8O22)(OH)2 |
| Fe | Iron | |
| Fe | ⓘ Magnetite | Fe2+Fe23+O4 |
| Fe | ⓘ Pyrite | FeS2 |
| Fe | ⓘ Ferri-ghoseite | ◻(Mn2+Na)(Mg4Fe3+)Si8O22(OH)2 |
| Zn | Zinc | |
| Zn | ⓘ Sphalerite | ZnS |
| Sr | Strontium | |
| Sr | ⓘ Celestine | SrSO4 |
| Cd | Cadmium | |
| Cd | ⓘ Greenockite | CdS |
| Ba | Barium | |
| Ba | ⓘ Baryte | BaSO4 |
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References
Segeler, Curt G. (1959) Notes on a second occurrence of groutite. American Mineralogist, 44 (7-8) 877-878
Segeler, Curt G. (1961) First U. S. occurrence of manganoan cummingtonite, tirodite. American Mineralogist, 46 (5-6) 637-641
Ghose, Subrata, Hexiong, Yang (1989) Mn-Mg distribution in a C2/m manganoan cummingtonite: Crystal-chemical considerations. American Mineralogist, 74 (9-10) 1091-1096 [with a discussion on the amphibole Segeler (1961) described as "tirodite"]
Talcville, Edwards, St. Lawrence County, New York, USA