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Georgiadesite

A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered
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About GeorgiadesiteHide

Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)
The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Lustre:
Resinous
Hardness:
Specific Gravity:
6.3
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Name:
Named for George Georgiadès (1861-1918) graduated from the École Supérieure des Mines in Paris in 1888. He worked in Greece for various Greek and French companies and published scientific studies on mineralogy in French. George Géorgiadès was notably chief engineer of the "Société des Usines métallurgiques du Laurium" from 1888 to 1905, later directed the factory of the "Société (française) universelle des explosives et des produits chimiques" at Lavrion (1907-1908), created his own mining studies firm (located in Athens, 9, Rue Ophtalmiatrion) and was an advisor to several other mining companies.
This page provides mineralogical data about Georgiadesite.


Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
1677
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:1677:9

IMA Classification of GeorgiadesiteHide

Classification of GeorgiadesiteHide

4.JB.70

4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
J : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites; iodates
B : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites; with additional anions, without H2O
41.1.3.1

41 : ANHYDROUS PHOSPHATES, ETC.CONTAINING HYDROXYL OR HALOGEN
1 : (AB)m(XO4)pZq, where m:p > 4:1
22.2.13

22 : Phosphates, Arsenates or Vanadates with other Anions
2 : Phosphates, arsenates or vanadates with chloride

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

SymbolSourceReference for Standard
GgdIMA–CNMNCWarr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43

Physical Properties of GeorgiadesiteHide

Resinous
Transparency:
Translucent
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Hardness:
3½ on Mohs scale
Cleavage:
None Observed
Density:
6.3(3) g/cm3 (Measured)    6.39 g/cm3 (Calculated)

Optical Data of GeorgiadesiteHide

Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
nα = 2.17 nβ = 2.17 nγ = 2.18
Max. Birefringence:
δ = 0.010
Based on recorded range of RI values above.

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Surface Relief:
Very High (positive)
Relative to Canada balsam mounting medium (n ≈ 1.537).

This shows the grain boundary and Becke line effect under plane-polarised light, based on the contrast between this mineral's average refractive index and the mounting medium. It does not take into account mineral colouration.
In focus
Interference Figure:
This shows the idealized biaxial acute bisectrix (Bxa) interference figure - the conoscopic view for a grain cut perpendicular to the acute bisectrix, using this mineral's 2V. The two small white dots mark the melatopes - the points where the two optic axes emerge - and are shown only when they fall within the field of view. The coloured bands are isochromatics, and the dark bands are isogyres.

Rotate the stage: at 0°/90° the isogyres form a cross through the melatopes; at 45° they pull apart into curved hyperbolas. That splitting on rotation - absent in a uniaxial figure - is the standard diagnostic test for telling biaxial minerals from uniaxial ones. If 2V is large, the melatopes may fall outside the field of view, as they often do at the microscope too.

No measured or calculated 2V is on file for this mineral, so the value used here (0°) is estimated from its recorded refractive indices and optic sign, not from a direct 2V measurement.
Dispersion:
extreme
Optical Extinction:
Y = b; Z = c.
Comments:
2V very large.

Chemistry of GeorgiadesiteHide

Mindat Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)

The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
Element Weights:
Element% weight
Pb74.630 %
Cl12.770 %
As6.746 %
O5.763 %
H0.091 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.
Pb
Cl
As
O
H

Crystallography of GeorgiadesiteHide

Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Class (H-M):
2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:
P21/b
Setting:
P21/c
Cell Parameters:
a = 13.803(10) Å, b = 7.910(2) Å, c = 10.812(4) Å
β = 102.68(3)°
Ratio:
a:b:c = 1.745 : 1 : 1.367
Unit Cell V:
1,151.68 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
1
Morphology:
Crystals stubby, pseudo-hexagonal tablets with a platy composite structure parallel to [100] (apparently due to lamellar twinning). {001} grooved and striated [010].
Twinning:
Apparent lamellar twinning on {100} and {104}

Crystallographic forms of GeorgiadesiteHide

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Georgiadesite no.1 - {110} - Goldschmidt (1913-1926)
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X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacingIntensity
3.096 Å(10)
3.955 Å(5)
3.164 Å(5)
6.33 Å(3)
5.30 Å(3)
4.031 Å(3)
3.773 Å(3)

Geological EnvironmentHide

Type Occurrence of GeorgiadesiteHide

Place of Conservation of Type Material:
National School of Mines, Paris, France; American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York, 28427; National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 137839, 145938.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
N/A (occurred in altered lead slag)
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:

Synonyms of GeorgiadesiteHide

Other Language Names for GeorgiadesiteHide

Common AssociatesHide

Associations Based on Photo Data:
17 photos of Georgiadesite associated with ParalaurionitePbCl(OH)
7 photos of Georgiadesite associated with NealitePb4Fe2+(As3+O3)2Cl4 · 2H2O
2 photos of Georgiadesite associated with PhosgenitePb2CO3Cl2
2 photos of Georgiadesite associated with AragoniteCaCO3
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with GalenaPbS
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with CalciteCaCO3
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with LaurionitePbCl(OH)
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with DiaboleitePb2CuCl2(OH)4
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with MatlockitePbFCl

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

4.JB.CuyaiteCa2Mn3+As3+14O24ClMon. m
4.JB.BrattforsiteMn19(AsO 3)12Cl2Mon. 2/m : B2/b
4.JB.05Fetiasite(Fe3+,Fe2+,Ti)3(As2O5)O2Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.10ManganarsiteMn3(As2O4)(OH)4Trig.
4.JB.15'UM1984-09-AsO:ClHMn'Mn10As6O18(OH)ClTet. 4/mmm(4/m2/m2/m) : I41/acd
4.JB.15MagnussoniteMn2+10(As3+O3)6(OH,Cl)2Iso. m3m(4/m32/m) : Ia3d
4.JB.20ArmangiteMn2+26(AsO3)14(HAsO3)4(CO3)Trig. 3 : P3
4.JB.25NanlingiteNa(Ca5Li)Mg12(AsO3)2[Fe(AsO3)6]F14Trig. 3m(32/m) : R3m
4.JB.30AsbecasiteCa3(Ti,Sn4+)Be2(AsO3)6(SiO4)2Trig. 3m : P3c1
4.JB.35StenhuggariteCaFeSb(AsO3)2OTet. 4/mmm(4/m2/m2/m) : I41/amd
4.JB.40TrigonitePb3Mn2+(AsO3)2(HAsO3)Mon. m
4.JB.45FinnemanitePb5(AsO3)3ClHex. 6/m : P63/m
4.JB.50GebharditePb8(As2O5)2OCl6Mon. 2/m : P21/b
4.JB.55GraeseriteFe3+4Ti3As3+O13(OH)Mon. 2/m : B2/m
4.JB.55Tomichite(V,Fe)4Ti3AsO13(OH)Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.55DerbyliteFe3+4Ti3Sb3+O13(OH)Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.60Hemloite(Ti,V3+,Fe3+,Al)12(As3+,Sb3+)2O23(OH)Tric. 1 : P1
4.JB.65FreediteCu+Pb8(AsO3)2O3Cl5Mon. 2/m : B2/m
4.JB.75Szklaryite◻Al6BAs3+3O15Orth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pbcm
4.JB.75Ekatite(Fe3+,Fe2+,Zn)12(AsO3)6(AsO3,HSiO4)2(OH)6Hex. 6mm : P63mc
4.JB.85LepageiteMn2+3(Fe3+7Fe2+4)O3[Sb3+5As3+8O34]Tric. 1 : P1
4.JB.90BianchiniiteBa2(TiV)(As2O5)2OFTet. 4/mmm(4/m2/m2/m) : I4/mcm

Other InformationHide

Notes:
Soluble in HNO3.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

Internet Links for GeorgiadesiteHide

References for GeorgiadesiteHide

Localities for GeorgiadesiteHide

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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Greece
 
  • Attica
    • East Attica
      • Lavreotiki
        • Charakas
van Kalmthout (2012)
        • Lavreotiki Municipal Unit
Grolig et al. (1978) +3 other references
        • Velatouri
Gelaude et al. (1996)
Lacroix et al. (1908) +2 other references
Italy
 
  • Tuscany
    • Livorno Province
      • Piombino
Muenchener Micromounter-Lithothek
Slovakia
 
  • Košice Region
    • Rožňava District
      • Dobšiná
Ďuďa R. (1992)
 
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