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April 2

How do I submit a Draft Article for Review.

Hello Wikipedians:

I have attempted to finish my Draft Article. I am not sure what to do next to get it reviewed. The only option I have is to Move the Article. I am a newbie. It took a great deal of edits to get it right.

I need help getting my Article Approved if possible for the Frisky_Business_Palm_Springs_Cat_Cafe Draft. Thank You for anybody to tell me what the next step is.

Thank You. 2024BrianK (talk) 00:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@2024BrianK: If you really think it's ready to go then you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page to put it in the reviewer backlog. Personally it looks nothing like an encyclopedic article, and I suspect that it will be declined (or worse, rejected) as is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank You for your help. I appreciate your time. 2024BrianK (talk) 00:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Quoting/Copyright

Hello, I am wondering what to do when something is so short and terse that it is not easily put in my own words, e.g., Tislelizumab is a humanized immunoglobulin G4 (IgG4) variant monoclonal antibody against the immune checkpoint-inhibitory receptor, PD-1. from here.

This seems too terse and precise to really reword, but I feel it is weird to put it in the article as "Tislelizumab is a humanized immunoglobulin G4 (IgG4) variant monoclonal antibody against the immune checkpoint-inhibitory receptor, PD-1." (i.e., the whole sentence, and the whole section as of now, just in quotes).

Kimen8 (talk) 01:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Kimen8: If it were copyrightable, then it would be a copyright violation whether or not you used quote marks. However, If there is basically only one way to express a thought, then it's not copyrightable, and I believe this is such a case. Since you intend intend to cite the source, it's also not plagiarism, whether or not you use quote marks. In my opinion, leave out the quote marks. -Arch dude (talk) 02:23, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. That is what I'd hoped, and thanks for clarifying that quotation marks/straight quoting doesn't save me. Kimen8 (talk) 03:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Kimen8 I think that the sentence is too terse for a Wikipedia article intended for diverse readership. Wouldn't it be better expressed more like the lead for Ixekizumab which you have recently edited. Something like Tislelizumab is a medication for the treatment of .... Chemically it is a type of humanized antibody, a variant of immunoglobulin G4, which acts by etc. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I took a bad example. I was asking, in particular, about a symptom list, but while scrolling found that sentence which I thought also elucidated my point. As you say though, the way around it on that particular sentence would likely be to change it for the audience, elaborating and rewording.

To clarify though, can you do anything with this besides just put it inline, add some wikilinks, maybe use a synonym where it seems more appropriate? (green is (rough) quote, start is my words)

Adverse effects include anemia, leukopenia, thrombocytopenia, nausea, increased aspartate transaminase (AST), neutropenia, fatigue, decreased appetite, vomiting, musculoskeletal pain, constipation, hypoproteinemia and rash.

I'm just trying to avoid copyright violation and finding myself bumping into situations where a copy-paste really seems the most reasonable choice.

Kimen8 (talk) 12:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Kimen8 That sort of list presumably comes from something like the leaflet included with drug prescriptions, which you will quote and maybe link to. Most of these leaflets say something like "anemia (1 in 10 patients), leukopenia (1 in 100 patients), thrombocytopenia (1 in 1,000) etc. As Wikipedia summarizes content, it seems to me reasonable only mention the most important adverse effects, whether based on frequency of occurrence or some other criteria like being discussed often in medically reliable sources. Note that you correctly started with the word "include", so there is no suggestion that the list is comprehensive. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Category: Important people

Under the above category, there are several important people not listed, and I can not figure out how to add/edit them in. I am spending too much time on you tube and your site, and can not understand all the instructions, with so many ins/outs, and hard to seem to get it right. What else can I do? geesh, just a few names/dob/dod/titles. Thanks SPA-Belen (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@SPA-Belen: I'm not certain what you're referring to – Category:Important people does not exist. Could you provide a link to the category, or the exact name? Tollens (talk) 02:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I just looked at your filter log – I assume you are referring to your edit which would have added Ida Jo Anaya-Cargo to Belen, New Mexico § Notable people not going through? If this is correct, please be aware that in lists of people on Wikipedia, the notability of the people in the list has to be demonstrated before they can be added – this is usually done by there already being a Wikipedia article about the person, which there doesn't appear to be for the person you were trying to add. Tollens (talk) 02:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for reply. YES for Ida Jo, she was NM First Lady and many articles in newspapers

and stories in books on her. SPA-Belen (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, SPA_Belen. Please see WP:Write the article first. If Anaya-Cargo meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then there can be an article about her, and that should preferably be created first.

You are welcome to try to create that article, but:

1. Creating a new article is one of the most challenging things to do in editing Wikipedia, and people who try it often have a frustrating and miserable time. I always advise new editors to spend several months making improvements to existing articles and learning about fundamental principles like verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability before trying to create a new article.
2. I may be wrong, but I am guessing from your account name and the fact that the first thing you did was try to add a politician to a list, that you have some connection with Anaya-Cargo. If so, please be aware that editing with a conflict of interest makes it even harder to write an article, as it may be harder to recognise whether or not your text is neutral.

You might find that asking for collaborators at WT:WikiProject New Mexico will be fruitful. ColinFine (talk) 17:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Glory of the Seas

Glory of the Seas.

How do you want a new book From Whaler to Clipper Ship (written by MJM) and two articles in periodicals listed (one by MJM and another by Richard Jones formated by the necessary codes to be acceptable? How will the text for the book title be formated in italics? Michael Jay Mjelde (talk) 03:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Michael Jay Mjelde. If you are talking about an article about a book, then using Template:Infobox book will automatically italicize the name of the book in the article title. Cullen328 (talk) 04:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Michael Jay Mjelde this seems to be about adding further reading to Glory of the Seas (clipper). I have fixed the formatting: Template:Cite book italicises the title as default. TSventon (talk) 11:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Michael Jay Mjelde Please do not add your own books to "further reading" sections. This is considered a form of spamming. If the book is sufficiently relevant and you feel that content cited to the book should be added to the article, then make an {{edit request}} on the article's talk page. Note your WP:COI as part of this edit request. -Arch dude (talk) 12:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

In the next weeks to follow I will modify the current "Glory of the Seas" text by incorporating the many corrections referenced in the main text of the article by endnotes to specify in detail where most recent publications affect the former text. Instead of simply showing as unverified 'facts,' they will appear instead as endnotes. However, at the same time I will remove certain errors and inconsistencies by endnotes which supersede incorrect conclusions reached by earlier maritime authorities. An example: Richard McKay, author of a book on Donald McKay, stated that Daniel McLaughlin took command of "Glory of the Sea" in 1879; whereas in one of the charts, the compiler correctly showed him as taking command in 1876 Michael Jay Mjelde (talk) 18:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Michael Jay Mjelde there is some advice for scientists at Wikipedia:Ten simple rules for editing Wikipedia which probably applies to historians as well. TSventon (talk) 21:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Lua error in Module:Adjacent_stations at line 237: Unknown line "GTX A"

Lua error in Module:Adjacent_stations at line 237: Unknown line "GTX A". I have a question what that means and how I can fix it 67uy90s (talk) 05:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Seongnam Station (Gyeonggi-do) (Bazza 7 (talk) 08:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC))

@67uy90s: What page are you seeing this error on? Tollens (talk) 05:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Seongnam Station (Gyeonggi-do) 67uy90s (talk) 05:46, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@67uy90s: GTX has not been defined in Module:Adjacent_stations. Bazza 7 (talk) 09:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Can I define it somehow? 67uy90s (talk) 10:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@67uy90s: There are examples at {{Adjacent stations}}. You need template editing privileges to modify the data module. If you do not have them, or are not confident, you can make a request on template's talk page. You will need to do the hard work up front to gather all the data needed about the line and determine how it should be structured. Do not underestimate the work needed. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I have no perms to edit the templates. 67uy90s (talk) 16:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@67uy90s: I said in my reply what to do if you do not have permission to edit the templates.

You might want to consider whether the effort required will be time well-spent for a railway system which is still under construction. Bazza 7 (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Дидойцы

здравствуйте, хотел выразить свое недовольство насчёт поста в Википедии.

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%86%D1%8B

На данном посту, запрещнна правка и ее внесение, мы с нашей командой дидойцев пытались избавиться от лживоого поста, где наклеветено о нашем народа, где мы учитываемся как диалект или как субэтнос в этом посту, хотя это не так, прошу вас обратить внимание и удалить этот пост, дайте право мне самому выложить насчет моего народа пост, и все буде прекрасно 8B 185.126.180.140 (talk) 07:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, different though related to the Russian Wikipedia. Problems at the Russian Wikipedia have to be discussed there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

The Russian Wikipedia help desk is at ru:Википедия:Форум/Вопросы RudolfRed (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

changing the content

there is an editor with 16,000 edits who insist on describing me in his words. when I chanfe it he changes it back. what can be done? EarthChoice2016 (talk) 10:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@EarthChoice2016: I am not sure what you are referring to – you have not made any edits using this account since May 2018. Could you provide the name of the article you're having the issue on, and the name of the other editor you're talking about? Tollens (talk) 10:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I see now – you are referring to