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I am a Chinese Wikipedia user .I am writing ａ page on Chinese Wikipdia ,I need this image(File:Apollo 11 five ounce obverse.jpeg) , but it is only on the English Wikipedia , so are there some people help me to move this image to wikimedia so that I can use it on Chinese Wikipedia? Hong Kaile (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: It's fair use (which is copyright exception legal thing), so you'll need to make sure it falls under Chinese Wikipedia's non-free image use guidelines. From the technical standpoint, you should be able to just download the image then re-upload it at zh.wiki, unless there's a better way. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: There's no need for you to download the image from Wikipedia, as the original is still located at the US Mint. GoingBatty (talk) 00:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks！ Hong Kaile (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Citing museum labels/wall text

Wondering whether or not museum labels and wall text are useable as citations per Wikipedia guidelines - if so, what is the proper citation template to use? I've searched for discussions about this/examples of proper citations, but I can't find much in the way of explanation. I'm assuming the proper template would be either cite sign, cite document, or cite object, but I'm not sure. Specifically thinking about using a wall label from the National Gallery of Art in DC that contains historical information about an artist's career. There were no citations on the label, but I have the entire text if it's needed for proper citation. Thanks! 19h00s (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

19h00s Yes these are appropriate sources. I would treat it like an article on the museum's website. Template:Cite sign should work. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The one occasion that I've needed to quote something like that I simply used <ref>Tourist interpretation panel adjacent to the doorway</ref>. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

AfD not listed in the 2023 November 17 log.

On 17 Nov I nominated an article for AfD. The discussion was relisted but I can't find it in the November 17 log. Is this OK? Gitz (talk) (contribs) 02:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it's now in the November 24 log. Relisted discussions get removed from the old log. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Good, thanks! Gitz (talk) (contribs) 03:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

android app

how do I set preferences and access my user page from android app ? 3MRB1 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I signed the question in android app..---... 3MRB1 (talk) 04:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC) (4 tildes)

@3MRB1: Hi there! If the answer isn't in mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ, you can ask at mw:Talk:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Busted common.js

I saw the humorous article WP:HTVC and I tried out the vandalism script (just to see if the Wikipedians who made it were JOKING), by way of putting it into my common.js file. But then I couldn't delete the script and save it! The "edit" button became a "vandalize" button, and there was no way to save my changes on the common.js file after. Can one of you admins please delete my common.js file so I can edit again? Ameerthewolf ^{(talk to me} 06:22, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ameerthewolf  Done, for future reference WP:SAFEMODE is helpful in these cases since it allows disabling the your custom javascript. Galobtter (talk) 06:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

News feed

2405:3800:868:E675:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:ITN. Folly Mox (talk) 09:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I persuade someone remove the redirect Natrium and make a hidden redirect page to the chemical element Sodium.

Could you make the name Natrium not shown in the summary field in the heading, but sufficient for everyone to type Natrium and get the result: Sodium. Would be a lovely kindness of you to help me. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I am not entirely sure what you mean – the page NatriumNatrium (redirection disabled for that link) is already a redirect page. If you navigate to Natrium (that link is normal behaviour), you will be immediately redirected to Sodium. Tollens (talk) 11:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tollens, no, I mean to hide the box 'Natrium redirects here'. And in meantime, create a page with the redirect to keep the article polish and consistent. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Let's spot the difference when you read the heading box of the article Potassium even you entered Kalium. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The difference is that Kalium has no other meaning, whereas Natrium (disambiguation) is needed as there are other possible uses for the term "Natrium". Hence the hatnote on Sodium. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Wait. I saw an effective way, you can make the heading box sound like In the Latin name, see Natrium (disambiguation) or something similar to that. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 12:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Users may enter "Natrium" in the search box and be taken directly to Sodium without cliking anything when they wanted something else like Natrium, West Virginia. That's why the top of Sodium has a socalled hatnote:

"Natrium" redirects here. For other uses, see Natrium (disambiguation).

It's working as intended and we don't want to change it. It's not technically possible for our software to only display the hatnote if a user arrived at Sodium via the redirect Natrium. The redirect is created with code in the page NatriumNatrium. The hatnote does not create the redirect but merely informs the reader that there is a redirect. If there is no other plausible article they could have been looking for then we don't make a hatnote on the target page for redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Can I use miscellaneous reference desk for help on origin of unknown stuff (such as a movie clip, but I don’t know where it is from & when was it made)

Is it allowed or not allowed? Should I use the miscellaneous reference desk for help on unknown stuff (such as a clip from a movie, music video or TV show, but I don’t know where it was made, what language is it & when was it released)? —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The Industrial Me 1563 I would ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. TSventon (talk) 14:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for your help! —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi

I recently got the permission for reviewing drafts and was wondering how could I notify a user for moving his page from namespace to draftspace? zoglophie^•talk• 14:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:DRAFTIFY recommends using {{uw-articletodraft}}. Folly Mox (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)