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February 15

Previously Deleted Article

If an article was previously deleted at AfD should it be speedy deleted? I've heard people use the the phrase that a deletion should be "salted" in what I assume means to keep anyone from recreating the article. Is this one of these instances: The Overnightscape. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

We have a speedy deletion criterion for it (WP:G4), but it only applies if the article was deleted at AfD before and the new incarnation doesn't address the concerns that were raised in the AfD. I don't think a SALT is necessarily in the cards quite yet, but it's getting there. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

G4 only allows speedy deletion if the recreated article is "substantially identical" but the criterion is quite often wrongly used. Thincat (talk) 16:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Global block

I have used and edited Wikipedia for many years from IP address 2600:387:b:3::b1.

A message posted by someone says this IP address falls within the range of something called a “global block.”

There is wording within the message that begins “if you believe you were blocked by mistake,” but the words that follow this invitation are completely incomprehensible.

Is there any way to unblock IP address 2600:387:b:3::b1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigturtle (talk • contribs) 02:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Bigturtle if you always log in the IP block is irrelevant. An IP address is not associated with your account. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Please see meta:Global blocks for more information about global locks. 2600:387:b:3::b1 was blocked for Long term abuse by Tegel. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

See also meta:Global_blocks/FAQ. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia article about me, not created by me

Hi there, I found this article about me and it was not written by me , I do not know who did it and I have never given my consent. How can i make sure it gets deleted ? https://eo.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valia_Tamvaki

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.46.4 (talk) 10:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You will have to ask on the Esperanto Wikipedia; we can only help you with articles on the English Wikipedia. Typically articles are written without any involvement from the subject, and the subject cannot grant or deny permission for an article about them to exist, because articles summarize independent reliable sources. If many independent reliable sources write about you, there is probably not much you can do about it other than argue that you are not notable enough to merit an article. You are also welcome to inform that Wikipedia about any errors in the article. 331dot (talk) 10:58, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Vikipedio:Diskutejo may be a good place to ask. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @ThomasPusch (Saluton!), who created the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:22, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Mi komencis diskuton. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:58, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Tiel vi faris. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:06, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Create Wiki page

Hi

How does one go about creating a page like this?

I can't seem to find the link or how to create...

Expatica — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikamet (talk • contribs) 11:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Ikamet Wikipedia has articles, not pages. Asking "how do I create a page" is kind of like asking "how do I build a house" without knowing anything about land acquisition, permitting, construction, electrical work, etc. Successfully creating a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. It is strongly recommended that your first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is also a good idea. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work is mercilessly edited and even deleted by others. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I strongly advise you to choose this path.

However, if you still want to attempt to create a new article now, please read Your First Article and then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another editor(new users cannot directly create new articles and must use this process). You will want to first gather any independent reliable sources you can find to summarize, and review the definition of notability. If you are associated with the topic, you will want to read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 11:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

how to publish draft

how to publish draft into article need help as I am not getting option in top to move it into article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruchita Maheshwari (talk • contribs) 15:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Ruchita Maheshwari Just click "submit your draft for review" at the top. However, it will likely be rejected, as it does not summarize what independent reliable sources say about you. You must set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on what independent reliable sources say about you. Please read WP:AUTO to learn why writing about yourself, while not forbidden, is discouraged. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

There is a blue submit button, but don't try that yet. You need to remove the misplaced external links from the draft text,and you need to ensure that you have properly cited references to independent reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Are consensuses needed to implement a tag?

For example, on Conscription Crisis of 1917, someone put a tag saying the lead needs to be rewritten. I reverted it stating that there needs to be a proper consensus and not just one person's belief. Was I right? I'm starting to think I was a bit harsh... Ak-eater06 (talk) 16:37, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Tags are merely edits and may be placed on the opinion of a single editor but they may also be reverted likewise. Then there should be discussion. Essays suggesting appropriate behaviour are WP:Tagging pages for problems and WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle Thincat (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

...and, sadly, no one seems to be discussing matters at Talk:Conscription Crisis of 1917. Thincat (talk) 17:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ak-eater06: The how-to on removing maintenance templates is Help:Maintenance template removal and includes a section on when to remove them. They're a little more than ordinary edits. "It is not okay to remove maintenance templates until the issue flagged by the template is remedied first". Toddst1 (talk) 00:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I think these matters are never really clear cut. To quote the sentence in full It is not okay to remove maintenance templates until the issue flagged by the template is remedied first—that is, only once the maintenance tag is no longer valid, unless it truly did not belong in the first place. I think overall the editing was too aggressive and the matter should have been brought to the talk page. Or was it unthinkable for someone to have have written, or drafted, a better lead? Thincat (talk) 09:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the situation is that a tag has been added, another user suggests it's not required, and then the original editor restored the tag, saying "but, I do think it's required". WP:BRD is pretty much the situation that needs to be followed. If there is disagreement whether a tag is suitable, then it should be discussed. A tag on it's own is a bit irrelevant if no one can agree that change needs to happen. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)