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December 19

How do I make subgroups using {{Navbox}} template?

could you please tell me how to make subgroups in the {{navbox}} template?

as an example, here is the country topics navbox for England, which has several subgroups within the section for "History.". the problem is that this uses a separate template, the {{country topics}} template. So I would like to find out how to configure the {{navbox}} template to do something similar? I appreciate your help. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 03:15, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I may have found a good example to utilize. the {{beef}} template below, has some clear subgroups. it uses the code below to generate the subgroups. is this main method to do so, or are there any other ways to do so? just want to get some basic information on this. I appreciate it.

|group2=Products

|list2 = {{Navbox|subgroup

|group1 = [[Cut_of_beef|Cuts]]

|list1=

• [[Baseball steak]]
• [[Brisket]]

thanks. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 03:29, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I also have found the {{melons}} navbox, which also utilizes some subgroups. below is the code that this navbox uses to do so. is there any difference between these two codes? I appreciate any help.

| group1 = ''[[Winter melon|Benincasa]]''

| list1  = {{navbox|child

| group1 = Species

| list1 =

* [[Winter melon|''B. hispida'' (Winter melon)]]

}}

thanks. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 03:40, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Would {{Harry Potter}} give you enough varieties of grouping to work from? Verbarson (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

hm, yes, that is very interesting. I guess I can peruse that and use some of the codes that are shown there. i appreciate it. thanks!!! ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 16:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Burr Tilstrom

Please add to Burr Tilstrom s page that he was a gay man. Thanks, Marc Goodman a supporter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:22D0:20C0:38F6:5D76:8795:7395 (talk) 03:21, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Burr Tillstrom

Absent a source that isn't going to happen. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if this counts as a "reliable" source, but he was inducted into the Chicago LGBT Hall of Fame. One could simply mention that he was inducted, and leave any inference to the reader. Source: "BURR TILLSTROM". Chicago LGBT Hall of Fame. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:B13C:5B9D:C0CD:345A (talk) 04:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

That inference is worthless. A source would need to explicitly state that he was gay. (This source could possibly be an interview, as this is something that couldn't reasonably be disputed if it came from the subject's own words.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 10:32, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

The HoF induction is mentioned with a source here Burr Tillstrom#Honors. MarnetteD|Talk 10:48, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Not only is the inference dubious (non-LGBT persons might be inducted in the HoF), but even if it was 100% foolproof, I would think that is a case similar to religion, nationality (see the "British or Scottish" infobox wars), etc. It should only be mentioned if either (1) it was a reasonably prominent part of the person’s public identity (something said in an interview might qualify) or (2) it is the subject of detailed commentary in the sources.