I am so glad that as soon as someone pops up with some text when asked for
it, that the positive reactions are so overwhelming :) Anyway, the
translation has been proofread, feel free to use etc as explained.
Lodewijk
2008/11/16 effe iets anders <effeietsanders op gmail.com>
> Hi all,
>> Thanks for sharing this. Wikimedia Nederland is working on a reaction which
> has been draft-translated into English as well. We were invited by the Dutch
> ministry of legal affairs to give our view on this green paper, to be taken
> into account for the national government reaction. We have done this[1],
> attended an informal meeting at the ministry with other stakeholder
> organisations and were included in the national reaction as well.
>> We are still working on a reply of our own as well. It will be in Dutch,
> companied by an English translation. We have already invited all the other
> chapters to send in the translation or a translation of the translation (in
> French, Hungarian or Swedish etc) themselves. Even though the odds are small
> that the EC will actually listen to us, the consequences are of such serious
> nature that we should definitely do whatever we can to help this process
> ahead in a positive direction.
>> You can find the draft reaction and translation of that reaction on the
> website of Wikimedia Nederland. The draft [2] (Dutch) has been written after
> the meeting at the ministry by some great Wikimedians (Thanks Elly, Esther,
> Fruggo, Jose, Marco, Wutsje and others :) ) and is now draft-translated into
> English[3]. If you can wait until thursday you can use it under one little
> condition: let us know what you do with it :). That is necessary for the
> motivation of the volunteers who worked on it, as you might understand :)
>> We also informed other stakeholder institutions such as CC NL, Stichting
> Copyright en Nieuwe Media, Free Knowledge Institute and FSF-Europe. I know
> from the Stichting Copyright en Nieuwe Media that they have sent in a reply,
> and CC NL and FKI were considering. Unfortunately I heard nothing back from
> FSFE.
>> Copyright is a tough thing, and sometimes, not so often, you have a chance
> to change it in a *positive* way. However, it is also an opportunity for
> Walt Disney and other copyright holder organisations to try and extend. So
> we all might have to step up, and do our best. I don't know how receiving
> the EC is towards replies from individuals, but it might definitely be good
> to have organisations sign this piece, and send it in! If your chapter is
> not working on it, approach the board, and ask them whether they want to do
> it, see if you can help them with this hard task.
>> Bare in mind, the deadline is on November 30.
>> Best regards,
>> Lodewijk Gelauff
> (board member WMNL)
>> ps: if you would have read our chapter report two months ago, you would
> have known this all already ;-) Join the chapter report-l:
>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/chapters-reports (no
> discussion there, only reports coming in monthly)
>> [1]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/en/Consultation> [2]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/Reactie> [3]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/en/Reaction>> 2008/11/14 teun spaans <teun.spaans op gmail.com>
>>> Agree.
>>>>>> And perhaps other organizations working with copy left licenses could be
>> informed?
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Teofilo <teofilowiki op gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright
>> > in the Knowledge Economy" (1) .
>> >
>> > In §3.4. They talk about the possibility to adapt copyright law so
>> > that user-created contents would become easier, and they ask to send
>> > them feedback by 30 November 2008 at markt-d1 op ec.europa.eu .
>> >
>> > I thought it would be kind of cool if the foundation or the individual
>> > european chapters would use this opportunity to give them some hints
>> > of what a Wikipedia-friendly copyright law/directive should look like,
>> > or a few concrete examples of the worries we are having in present
>> > time with the current laws. In particular it should be stressed how
>> > laws in some country lacking a "fair use" restriction for pictures
>> > and/or without a "panorama freedom" are cumbersome. Non copyright
>> > issues like the ltalian law on cultural goods should also be
>> > mentioned.
>> >
>> > I am sending the same message on the village pump on Commons :
>> >
>> >
>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#European_Commission_Green_Paper_-_Copyright_in_the_Knowledge_Economy>> >
>> >
>> > (1)
>> >
>>http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2008:0466:FIN:EN:HTML>> > (English)
>> >
>> > Other languages are available here :
>> >
>> >
>>http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:52008DC0466:FR:NOT>> >
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